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Post  Hayz.Adkison Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:18 pm

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Arock iHurdle wrote: Shocked I believed (before watching this video) that America did send men to the Moon but now I'm skeptical. The evidence provided by the former rocket technician was very critical and believable. He mentioned that most rockets didn't even get into orbit, let alone send men to the Moon and get them back to Earth safely. He also has some key observations. He saw that the U.S. Flag was waving when there is NO wind in outer space; he says that (despite the clarity) that there aren't any stars in the lunar sky. And he also says that the lunar lander didn't have a blast crater from its landing and departure from the Moon. This information is very sufficient and makes the "man on the moon" event go from confirmed to plausible!! GREAT OBSERVATIONS AND GREAT VIDEO!! Very Happy

Arock I completely agree with you, but if you think about the flag waving. Yes there is no wind, but there is also no gravity. So if there is no gravity, then the flag might just be floating and not waving as if there was wind.

I agree with your post too. There is no gravity on the moon, therefore how would they even land in the first place. Without the gravity the Lunar Lander would even get pulled to the moon in order for it to stay there. The flag also would of never been able to attatched to the ground. This video does have alot of good observations but i wonder what exactly caught someones attention to this topic so much that it made them go through all that trouble in noticing the very little details. Smile

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Post  kurt.ragan Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:02 pm

Ben Johnson wrote:Before watching the series of films I believed that man had accually landed on the moon, but during the films many interesting facts were pointed out, one being that there is no air in space so how could the flag be flying, although there has been some speculation that it was an optical illusion and the flag was not accually moving. Another key point was the blast crater, if the lander had taken off there should have been a crater where it had taken off. One more key point was there being shadows i different areas of the pictures yet the sun is the only light source on the moon which means the landing could have been staged. Even if the government is lieing or not, im still kind of borderline on whether man has accually landed on the moon. I'm going to wait until there is more sufficient evidence before i decide which side i'm on because, it could go both ways scratch

Creative title. I agree with you though. I always beleived that we landed on the moon but the evidence shown does make it very possible that we didn't

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Post  kurt.ragan Sun Aug 28, 2011 9:10 pm

RandallJYoung wrote:Before watching the video I 100% completely believed that the US had landed on the moon but, the video opened my eyes to the numerous flaws in the "evidence" that was shown to millions of Americans.


John F Kennedy gave the US a rough timeline on May 21, 1961 he told congress "I believe that this nation should commit itself to achieving the goal, before this decade is out, of landing a man on the moon and returning him safely to the earth. " This deadline was beat by Apollo 11 with 161 days to spare. This gave the US a motive to lie about landing on the moon.

The shadow images also need to be explained they are the biggest flaw in my opinion

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Post  RandallJYoung Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:05 pm

maryamnewman wrote:
Before watching the video I had been already skeptical about whether or not the US landed on the moon then. After the given evidence in the video, I still believe that the landing was false. As said before, by the "wind" on the moon and multiple shadows are examples of clear evidence that it was false. Im beginning to belive that it may have been a scam in order to convince the Soviet Union that the US is more technologically advance than they are.

I agree with you the whole mission was very sketchy the most being the multiple shadows.

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Post  RandallJYoung Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:08 pm

a-ri.11 wrote:I kind of disagree because if the many Americans who believe that the lunar landing was a conspiracy dont necessarily have enough evidence then should'nt there be more evidence that NASA did actually land on the moon and being that the conspiracy is a theory, how would we possibly know that NASA landed on the moon? From the only evidence we really have...what we've seen on tv?

I agree with you, the only evidence that proves NASA landed on the moon, comes from NASA there are no outside sources (that i've heard of) that support nasa's claim

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Post  Cheli Foster Sun Aug 28, 2011 11:19 pm

Ben Johnson wrote:Before watching the series of films I believed that man had accually landed on the moon, but during the films many interesting facts were pointed out, one being that there is no air in space so how could the flag be flying, although there has been some speculation that it was an optical illusion and the flag was not accually moving. Another key point was the blast crater, if the lander had taken off there should have been a crater where it had taken off. One more key point was there being shadows i different areas of the pictures yet the sun is the only light source on the moon which means the landing could have been staged. Even if the government is lieing or not, im still kind of borderline on whether man has accually landed on the moon. I'm going to wait until there is more sufficient evidence before i decide which side i'm on because, it could go both ways scratch

I really like that you stated the facts and recognize your point of view but are still confident enough to be honest and admit that you are undecided. I like that you are taking the time to really meditate on these facts and make a decision. QUALITY OVER QUANTITY!!

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Post  maryamnewman Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:34 am

DanManzella wrote:Before viewing this video i had my doubts on if we had really landed on the moon when we said we did, not because of any evidence or facts but just because of i believe our government is arrogant enough that they would try to pull off a stunt like this over us. A lot of people will believe what ever it is you tell them, weather its for the lack of the ability of being able to think for yourself or being so naive that you trust every thing that comes out of every ones mouth. Before watching this movie I'm already stating that what ever is shown in this video i will still believe the moon landing was a hoax.

Now i probably don't know as much as the rest of us about space or as much as i should, so to me the blast crater is insignificant to me even tho the specialist makes it seem important. Agreeing just because of what he said would follow in footsteps with the rest of America. on the other hand i do believe there shouldn't be wind to blow the flag in space. There are many possible explanations that could cause error in there not being stars in the video, after all this is in the 60's. if this actually happen, any video in space should have been good enough. And for what Brian O'leary had to say was also insignificant. that's just hear say and for all i care the man is just using this for attention. On the other hand, the conspiracy that we actually just orbited the earth for 8 days is plausible for me.

The whole movie set part doesn't interest me, It could be area 51, it could not be. it does not matter to me because i already know that it was a movie set somewhere. The actually where isn't important. But being able to hear them talking when a engine should be running doesn't make sense. i agree that the footprints couldn't possibly be there.

i must admit that the photos do seem like they're too good to be taken from a camera strapped to your chest, in other words, to good to be true. Again with the shadows proving their was more light then just the sun being shined upon them it seems that America did not cover their tracks up that well. With NASA just dismissing the remarks of more then one lighting in their photos doesn't go well in their part. they're in to deep and that cant think of any more excuses so they ignore their problems. And Come on with the same scenery, really? Do you take us as idiots? this is kind of insulting now. haha they really didn't think this one through or care enough to double check their edited picture. what's their excuse for the messed up cross hairs? exactly!

America finally started covering up their tracks.The deaths are just Americas fault for not planning ahead, when things got rough they panicked and took innocent lives. What do they care if they have to lose a few lives along the way. they'll do what ever they can to keep themselves in power. To them lives are expendables. 10 freak accidents cant be just a coincidence. But seriously tell me again how they got through the radiation belt or the sun storm? thought so. 250 degrees below zero or 250 degrees above zero, hmm pick your poison but if i know anything about temperature it doesn't seem like your going to be able to stay alive in ether.

This is just like the death of Osama Bin Laden. it was shady proof with outrageous excuses. It's the government manipulating us to think the way they want us to. it's not like Osama or anyone else for that matter would go against our government saying he in fact is still alive because then that could lead to his actually death. but that is another story. So ask yourself this, if NASA and the government wanted to fake landing on the moon, who would stop them? or better yet, who could?

Now for the question, things that made people realize that we actually did not land on the moon that i previously discussed are the fact there was no stars in any pictures or video, the flag was waving in a place made out to be space when space has no wind, and that shadows were cast out as if there was more then just the sun for light. i honestly believe there is multiple sufficient evidence to support one of the most controversial conspiracies of all time.
You basically go into detail of the point I was trying to make & I agree with your opinon with the whole thing about our government manipulating us to think the way they want us to. I had the same idea. Being the fact that America is lowkey about so many other things. Why would the landing on the moon be any different

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Post  maryamnewman Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:46 am

KristinaRider wrote:
ScubaSteve.Smith wrote:Before watching the video i believed that we did land on the moon. The video had some real key points and evidence about saying we didn't. They discussed that the flag that was to be on the moon was moving, but yet there is no wind. Also he mentioned that most rockets didn't even get into orbit, let alone send men to the Moon and get them back to Earth safely. He says that the lunar lander didn't have a blast crater from its landing and departure from the Moon. To me, that sounds very fishy and should investigated in depth more. This information is very sufficient and interesting. It gets your brain thinking hard and gives you a new perception of "man on the moon".
I agree with you. I also believed that it did happen because it's in the history books. I think one way this should be investigated is if they interviewed the astronaut, but they all may be dead.
The fact that the moon landing is in the history books does not make it true and you're basically saying that you'll believe whatever is fed to you. There are many gimmicks that are recorded in history books to hype up the US, and many of them are nothing more than that. The whole Lincoln and the slaves incident is an example. My point is that since you have clear evidence, what's not to believe

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Post  chrisprincivalli Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:12 pm

ScubaSteve.Smith wrote:
Arock iHurdle wrote: Shocked I believed (before watching this video) that America did send men to the Moon but now I'm skeptical. The evidence provided by the former rocket technician was very critical and believable. He mentioned that most rockets didn't even get into orbit, let alone send men to the Moon and get them back to Earth safely. He also has some key observations. He saw that the U.S. Flag was waving when there is NO wind in outer space; he says that (despite the clarity) that there aren't any stars in the lunar sky. And he also says that the lunar lander didn't have a blast crater from its landing and departure from the Moon. This information is very sufficient and makes the "man on the moon" event go from confirmed to plausible!! GREAT OBSERVATIONS AND GREAT VIDEO!! Very Happy

Arock I completely agree with you, but if you think about the flag waving. Yes there is no wind, but there is also no gravity. So if there is no gravity, then the flag might just be floating and not waving as if there was wind.
i totally agree with you that theres so much info on both sides thats its hard to come to a conclusion on the topic

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Post  chrisprincivalli Mon Aug 29, 2011 11:17 pm

Cassandra Carpenter wrote:I still believe that he did land on the moon. Though they had good therioes on how we didn't land on the moon, they still didn't have alot of truth in what they were saying. Many can have different anwsers on why the flag was waving, or if it even was waving at all and just moving. Many can ask why someone would even have a reason to put so much work in to proving that someone else is wrong and questiong all the hard work they did. Some people just don't want to except the fact that we are the first to land on the moon and we didn't FAKE it.We worked hard and long until we reached our goal. Until they have real facts and truth to what they are saying,then thats when i'll believe that we didn't land on the moon. In my opinion we did land on the moon.!@>
Cassandra open your eyes the reality is government and big business will do anything to get out on top! and with the threat of nuclear weapons we werent gunna risk coming out in 2nd place so we faked it for the good of the country its ok accept it

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Post  Chopper789 Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:04 pm

The conspiracy is compared to the 1977 science fiction thriller Capricorn One in segment one. The entire theory served as a source of inspiration for the motion picture. Anyhow, the evidence seems so accumulative to the point of irrefutability. I find the lack of stars and the odd shadow placement to truly stand out amongst the evidence given. With the corroborative evidence given, it seems possible that we, the United States of America, in fact, did not land on the surface of Earth's moon.

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Post  Chopper789 Fri Oct 14, 2011 11:23 pm

lindsay-moody wrote:
a-ri.11 wrote:I agree, considering that majority of America was led to believe that we did actually land on the moon and now all of sudden having evidence of a possible hoax makes the landing very skeptical.


well... i don't think that any guy who comes up with a bunch of evidence should be automatically accepted as telling the truth. You cant believe everything you hear. (or see)

I am not certain...the evidence seems too credible in my opinion. Especially the light sources.

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