3rd Hour - Chief Seattle
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ChrissyMaes
Devin McCullough
danirivera
Keith E. Reece
Kara Gordon
Logan Huddleston1
ROBBYECANADA
JessLockette
alexushughes
Jonesayy
brianadreid16
camenistic strickland
Lara Hamdan
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camenistic strickland wrote:I find the words of Chief Seattle to be totally true despite the fact that he lived in a totally different culture, socionomic, and economic region with limited experience in industrialized cities or knowledge of the possible near future. Chief Seattle and the Duwamish Tribe maintained a steady, healthy lifestyle in a perfect environment because they respected and took care of it.Today, Chief Seattle would be disgusted with the way things are compared to his lifestyle. In modern times, instead of just densely populated cities with concentrated population and few industrialized countries, there are densely populated autonomous cities(Los Angeles) with pollation that spreads for miles around the cities carried by the jet stream to other continents. There are global sewage problems, chemicals and pollutants in wetlands, rivers can't carry sediment to deltas and fertilize land because of people settling on 'flood plains permanently', corrupt government policy, CFC's, CO2, methane, and other global air pollutants that cause diseases like cancer and whatever Ultimately we are currently destroying ourselves because of un-ecofriendly or 'unnecessary' and corrupt development(suburbs, the relocation of manufacturing, not restoring historic buildings, highways that do not serve the city but destroy it-"rust belt") I could go on more but I think you guys get the point, something needs to change or like the guy said, we'll be extinct, probably within the next 100-200 years because of our own doing.
I agree with you! it was different for him. his people had repscet for the land as opposed to us.
danirivera- Posts : 19
Join date : 2011-08-25
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"Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect."
This quote is really good! it explains the food web and how everything is connected.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect."
This quote is really good! it explains the food web and how everything is connected.
danirivera- Posts : 19
Join date : 2011-08-25
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JessLockette wrote:-Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect.
I like this quote because, it's true. whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves because, just like in a food web, whatever one animal is affected by something, then that effects the WHOLE entire food web. It doesn't matter if the fox doesn't eat the snail, that's population is extinct, it still effects each animal in someway.
I agree Jess because even though we may try to eliminate one thing others things that we may not notice still become effected.
Devin McCullough- Posts : 27
Join date : 2011-08-24
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ChrissyMaes wrote:Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect.
A lot of people today would almost disagree with this quote. Many people are so interested in advancing in technology and having all these material things that they think will make them happy that they don't care what they have to do to get it. They don't care that they are polluting the air they breath, they don't care that they are cutting down all the forests, they don't care what animals they are hurting, or what habitats they're destroying. Chief Seattle was correct in saying that humans do not weave the web of life. No matter how great we think we are, we don't create nature. We are part of the world just like every other living thing and we shouldn't harm it, because eventually it will come back full circle and have a harmful effect on us.
I agree with you Chrissy. People don't think about the bigger picture and how it might effect us later on.
Devin McCullough- Posts : 27
Join date : 2011-08-24
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I think this video is great!. It's like an eye opener for those people who have no sympathy for our earth. Humans are only one fraction of the whole. We make ourselves out to be the most important, but really, we depend on the others to survive. Without them, we are hopeless. We need to treat this planet with the care and respect it deserves.
gater.kiana- Posts : 23
Join date : 2011-08-27
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BriaMcGhee1 wrote:"Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect."
This video was actually very good. . I chose this quote because of the fact that it is TRUE ! We need to take more care of the forest and the plants. Its only right. IF we don't have them there is no way for us to breath or LIVE! this quote relates to what we have been learning because it points out that deforestation is NOT a good thing and that we our hurting ourselves as well as the animals.
I agree with you Bria. it is very important to take care of our Earth. It contains all of the important things we need to survive and we are abusing it.
gater.kiana- Posts : 23
Join date : 2011-08-27
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ROBBYECANADA wrote:"Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect. "
We always tend to think to act as if we're the center of everything living, but were not. Every component of any food web is important. Humans are a piece but not the whole,and we should treat other organisms similarly. If we continue to kill off species, in the long run that will affect us as well. All life affects, in some way, other life;everything is important and connected.
I agree Robbye. We are just a fraction, not the center of everything.
gater.kiana- Posts : 23
Join date : 2011-08-27
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Lara Hamdan wrote:-Man does not weave this web of life. He is merely a strand of it. Whatever he does
to the web, he does to himself.
First off, i think this was a great video.
Anyway, I agree with this quote and i think it relates to what we've been discussing in class the most. The guy is right, Humans do not weave the web of life, nature has done that for us. Mankind is just on top of the food web, and i think with great power comes great responsibility. If man over destroys areas such as greenland, than animals will be affected. And as we learned in class, even if you take out one thing in the food web that doesn't really seem to matter, everything will be distrupted, even the top of the food chain. So basically, if we destroy or change something nature has made for us, then we will be affected the same way later on.
Lara makes a really good point, with great power comes great responsibility. Since we have the most power in the world, it is our responsibility to take care of everything and make the right decisions.
ChrissyMaes- Posts : 21
Join date : 2011-08-24
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alexushughes wrote:Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect.
If more people thought how Chief Seattle and other Native Americans did then we wouldn't have as many problems in the environments on Earth today and I find this quote very true. Human beings don't create the life of all livings things on Earth but are only a part of it, and even just being one part the actions we take affect all other threads in the web of life. Like in the food webs we discussed in class, taking out or adding another organism impacts the organisms and their flow and sources of energy and population. Many humans don't think of the cause and effects to Earth when it's important to since we live on it, and we have to take care of it if we want to keep living and be healthy. For example we have discussed global warming in class but many people pollute and there's the great pacific garbage patch and people aren't taking care of our oceans and protecting our mother earth from harm.
Great point Alexus! No matter what we do it affects every part of the food web, or the world.
ChrissyMaes- Posts : 21
Join date : 2011-08-24
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"This reflexes exactly what we have been learning. If man put a new animal where it is not suppose to be, then everything changes there. Also when ever man kills an animal to extinction, or close to it, then everything at that place will change. This has happened multiple times, only because man thinks that he can do whatever he wants with the animals because they are lower than him. They don't think about what will happen, they only think about what is happening. That thought is almost always connected to money. That is what most people think about, money and only money. They don't care how or where they got it , they only care that they have a lot of it."
I agree with you Logan we have a mest up conception of money, power, and that other animals are lower than us.
I agree with you Logan we have a mest up conception of money, power, and that other animals are lower than us.
Trey Neal- Posts : 11
Join date : 2011-08-29
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gater.kiana wrote:I think this video is great!. It's like an eye opener for those people who have no sympathy for our earth. Humans are only one fraction of the whole. We make ourselves out to be the most important, but really, we depend on the others to survive. Without them, we are hopeless. We need to treat this planet with the care and respect it deserves.
I agree . i let my parents watch this video and they said the exact same thing.. we do take advantage of the earth!! when we depend on it.
BriaMcGhee1- Posts : 22
Join date : 2011-08-24
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Logan Huddleston1 wrote:Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it.
Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together.
All things connect.
This reflexes exactly what we have been learning. If man put a new animal where it is not suppose to be, then everything changes there. Also when ever man kills an animal to extinction, or close to it, then everything at that place will change. This has happened multiple times, only because man thinks that he can do whatever he wants with the animals because they are lower than him. They don't think about what will happen, they only think about what is happening. That thought is almost always connected to money. That is what most people think about, money and only money. They don't care how or where they got it , they only care that they have a lot of it.
I always was curious about why they do tht but you just made it clear to me that it is just for money . and tht we are extra greedy . thanks for making me realize tht.
BriaMcGhee1- Posts : 22
Join date : 2011-08-24
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brianadreid16 wrote:I like the quote about the fact that humankinds actions definitely affect the Earth and itself. I remeber talking about the unit on Global Warming and how it really affects the Earth. I really don't like the fact that humankind has done so much damage to the Earth, but then again I can't imagine life any other way. To me it seems that there are definitely consequences to our action, for instince natural disasters. I know that things like tornadoes, and earthquakes are beyond our control, but if a hurricane hit I think it does more damage now than say before the Industrial Revolution because of the fact that there is nothing to stand up against the hurricane. I completely agreed with the statement about humankind affecting the Earth, which intern affects itself.
When brian says we have done so much damamge to the Earth but he can't imagine it any other way I truely agree with that. If we did not take out all the animals and trees we did what would the world be like today not advanced. I am not saying its right , but I truely can't imagine it another way
Jonesayy- Posts : 14
Join date : 2011-08-23
Everyone..
I know everyone who is watching this video says we are not the most important things on Earth , but do you truely believe that. We modernized every single thing. If everyone truly believed we weren't the center of the world then they would be living in the forest just like the Tribes of Natives. I think even though we all watched this video we still feel like we are the center of the universe not even know we think this.
Jonesayy- Posts : 14
Join date : 2011-08-23
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All things share the same breath - the beast, the tree, the man...
the air shares its spirit with all the life it supports.
This is so obviously simple. Every living organism shares air. We need it to eat, to drink, to help power our electricity. Why are we polluting it then? We must realize that what goes around comes around and that we are affecting our lives by polluting the air. This is easier said than done though. I for one, do not want to stop driving to school and take the gross school bus. I guess it comes down to personal responsibility and if you truly think your actions will never catch up to you.
the air shares its spirit with all the life it supports.
This is so obviously simple. Every living organism shares air. We need it to eat, to drink, to help power our electricity. Why are we polluting it then? We must realize that what goes around comes around and that we are affecting our lives by polluting the air. This is easier said than done though. I for one, do not want to stop driving to school and take the gross school bus. I guess it comes down to personal responsibility and if you truly think your actions will never catch up to you.
Erika Edmonds- Posts : 18
Join date : 2011-08-24
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[quote="camenistic strickland"] Well...when you put it like that...
What you said was absolutely true. And that makes it depressing how no one cares anymore.
What you said was absolutely true. And that makes it depressing how no one cares anymore.
Erika Edmonds- Posts : 18
Join date : 2011-08-24
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[quote="Jonesayy"] So true. The advancement of technology and the globally connected world have led us to believe that we are so much more important than we are. I'm not going to speak for everybody, but when i saw the video, i was like "yeah, we need to save the Earth." But then ten minutes later, i had forgotten all about the video and was watching Jersey Shore. Out of sight, out of mind.
Erika Edmonds- Posts : 18
Join date : 2011-08-24
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ROBBYECANADA wrote:I agree with what you said. The Native Americans managed to survive without damaging the environment, so why can't we? We have way to many developments in technology to not have ways to avoid disrupting other organisms.camenistic strickland wrote:
I agree with you robbye, it might not cause us to go into extinction, but it will effect us in a negative way.
Lara Hamdan- Posts : 16
Join date : 2011-08-24
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[quote="alexushughes"]
We might not become extinct, but we will be affected by it somehow,negatively, just like how humans have killed organisms such as trees, and now the earth is now in global warming, and that affects us greatly.
Lara Hamdan wrote:
I agree with that quote to and it relates to what we've been discussing in class but I also think all of them do and sort of say the same thing. We'll be affected the same way later on.. so you're saying we'll become extinct from other things on earth not caring about us?
We might not become extinct, but we will be affected by it somehow,negatively, just like how humans have killed organisms such as trees, and now the earth is now in global warming, and that affects us greatly.
Lara Hamdan- Posts : 16
Join date : 2011-08-24
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